conchshell
08-13 04:44 PM
I started a thread couple of weeks back. It met an untimely death because of lack of participation from people. Just to revive your memory :
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406
Today we are here almost on the verge of disintegration as an organization. And this is because we always believed in our minds that we are nothing but a bunch of opportunists coming together for our individual cause of getting a GC. What we see today is an outcome of what we always believed. Soon EB2 will disappear, and EB3 will be left alone fighting for their GC's. And at some point of time they will also go away, all that's left will be "guests" using IV as a discussion forum. May be what I suggested can be termed as "Quixotic" but unless we aim high, we will never reach high.
Guys, I am an EB2 with PD in 2004, but I will always stand together with you, no matter what. A GC for myself alone will never satisfy me, because number of my friends, my family members are in EB3, and I am not mean enough to celebrate for myself when majority of my friends and family members are sad.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406
Today we are here almost on the verge of disintegration as an organization. And this is because we always believed in our minds that we are nothing but a bunch of opportunists coming together for our individual cause of getting a GC. What we see today is an outcome of what we always believed. Soon EB2 will disappear, and EB3 will be left alone fighting for their GC's. And at some point of time they will also go away, all that's left will be "guests" using IV as a discussion forum. May be what I suggested can be termed as "Quixotic" but unless we aim high, we will never reach high.
Guys, I am an EB2 with PD in 2004, but I will always stand together with you, no matter what. A GC for myself alone will never satisfy me, because number of my friends, my family members are in EB3, and I am not mean enough to celebrate for myself when majority of my friends and family members are sad.
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obviously
09-15 10:55 PM
I think the at the heart of this kind of reckless, selfish 'crusade' is a problem with poor upbringing. Some kids are brought up to look at the world through myopic self-interests, and are molly coddled by their parents into believing that their narrow views are indeed honorable and respectable.
The sad reality is that such 'crusades' do nothing more than unite those against the larger cause of brown/black/non-white immigration and divide those that are already in pain.
No wonder then that history repeats itself ever so often when those from the 'great Eastern lands' can so easily be ruled by those with shorter histories and accomplishments.
Take a look at illegal immigrants. They break the law. Yet, they are able to unite so effectively to make themselves heard. For a group that has absolutely no locus standi for legal or political relief, they are amazingly effective in shaping the dialog around their interests.
As a strategy and communications professional (with a strong background in Harvard Law School mediation/negotiation and US public policy) I can vouch for the effectiveness of a united voice that speaks to larger interests oriented towards US economic gains. These kinds of narrow sub-optimal "causes" only make the USCIS and the larger establishment care less about legal employment based immigration.
Absent in this dialog from this 'erudite PhD' is analyses of root causes of underlying problems. For one, there is the absolutely crystal clear problem with country based quotas for employment based immigration in a country where the primary act, i.e., employment itself cannot be discriminated based on national origin. And so on and so forth.
Instead of taking cause with such short sighted and self-centered acts, why not apply your collective 'high skills' towards highlighting the POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS of legal immigrants and pushing for a better overall process?
Instead of collecting money to slit the wrists of those around you, why not join hands and petition the lawmakers for better, more transparent processing estimates?
Instead of trying to make a futile argument that EB1 > EB2 > EB3, why not attempt to have a real public policy dialog that reframes larger interests?
Further more, dont forget that when the USCIS needs to respond to such frivolous lawsuits, it costs US taxpayer dollars... which further alienates the USCIS and Citizens from the cause of legal immigration.
No wonder then we find an increase in backlash against non-white immigrants that seek a higher sense of entitlement... seriously... I can bet just as I did with that SunnySurya joker a while ago, put your EB2 petition up online and let us see if there really is no US Citizen available to do the job.
What makes it fair for a foreigner like you to come to this country and claim that there there is NO ONE to do the job based on which you seek to immigrate?
If you are really serious about US national interest and the larger question of fairness, it is only fair that you post the EB2 job and we confirm that there is no US person ready and able to take that job. And dont try those advertising tricks, I will hire a lawyer to smoke out your games.
BTW, I will be looking out for this lawsuit. I will get the details from you directly without you even knowing about it. Heck, I will even contribute to your "cause" so that you give me the details. Then, I will file a separate petition to have your specific EB case investigated for the merits your lawyer posed. Ready for that game?
Bottomline, I blame poor parenting for creating such characters in society that cause a drain on the moral fabric of humanity.
The sad reality is that such 'crusades' do nothing more than unite those against the larger cause of brown/black/non-white immigration and divide those that are already in pain.
No wonder then that history repeats itself ever so often when those from the 'great Eastern lands' can so easily be ruled by those with shorter histories and accomplishments.
Take a look at illegal immigrants. They break the law. Yet, they are able to unite so effectively to make themselves heard. For a group that has absolutely no locus standi for legal or political relief, they are amazingly effective in shaping the dialog around their interests.
As a strategy and communications professional (with a strong background in Harvard Law School mediation/negotiation and US public policy) I can vouch for the effectiveness of a united voice that speaks to larger interests oriented towards US economic gains. These kinds of narrow sub-optimal "causes" only make the USCIS and the larger establishment care less about legal employment based immigration.
Absent in this dialog from this 'erudite PhD' is analyses of root causes of underlying problems. For one, there is the absolutely crystal clear problem with country based quotas for employment based immigration in a country where the primary act, i.e., employment itself cannot be discriminated based on national origin. And so on and so forth.
Instead of taking cause with such short sighted and self-centered acts, why not apply your collective 'high skills' towards highlighting the POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS of legal immigrants and pushing for a better overall process?
Instead of collecting money to slit the wrists of those around you, why not join hands and petition the lawmakers for better, more transparent processing estimates?
Instead of trying to make a futile argument that EB1 > EB2 > EB3, why not attempt to have a real public policy dialog that reframes larger interests?
Further more, dont forget that when the USCIS needs to respond to such frivolous lawsuits, it costs US taxpayer dollars... which further alienates the USCIS and Citizens from the cause of legal immigration.
No wonder then we find an increase in backlash against non-white immigrants that seek a higher sense of entitlement... seriously... I can bet just as I did with that SunnySurya joker a while ago, put your EB2 petition up online and let us see if there really is no US Citizen available to do the job.
What makes it fair for a foreigner like you to come to this country and claim that there there is NO ONE to do the job based on which you seek to immigrate?
If you are really serious about US national interest and the larger question of fairness, it is only fair that you post the EB2 job and we confirm that there is no US person ready and able to take that job. And dont try those advertising tricks, I will hire a lawyer to smoke out your games.
BTW, I will be looking out for this lawsuit. I will get the details from you directly without you even knowing about it. Heck, I will even contribute to your "cause" so that you give me the details. Then, I will file a separate petition to have your specific EB case investigated for the merits your lawyer posed. Ready for that game?
Bottomline, I blame poor parenting for creating such characters in society that cause a drain on the moral fabric of humanity.
indio0617
03-15 09:24 AM
The link you have sent has listed Dirksen 224 as the venue on the top left, while in the middle it does say
The Executive Business Meeting scheduled by the Committee on the Judiciary, for Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 9:00 a.m., will take place in Dirksen Room 226.
There is no audio link for rroom 224 on capitolhearings.org....does anyone have any idea on where else can we can the audio from?
Same here. Just joined.. No audio yet. Looks like it has not begun yet...
The Executive Business Meeting scheduled by the Committee on the Judiciary, for Wednesday, March 15, 2006 at 9:00 a.m., will take place in Dirksen Room 226.
There is no audio link for rroom 224 on capitolhearings.org....does anyone have any idea on where else can we can the audio from?
Same here. Just joined.. No audio yet. Looks like it has not begun yet...
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never_giveup
08-14 11:33 AM
I think they are talking about EB3 Mexico... Doesn't make any sense for EB3-India as it has already been unavailable.. so what does heavy load signifies... I am positive EB3-I will open up... may be more retrogressed than last availability.. but it will be available on Oct 1...
I agree. This should be in regards to EB3 Mexico. Mr. Gotcher also thinks the same, as stated in one of his posts.
Eb3 guys and gals ... don't be disheartened .... October bulletin might have some positive news atleast for the 01-02 filers.
I am 03 btw!!!!!
I agree. This should be in regards to EB3 Mexico. Mr. Gotcher also thinks the same, as stated in one of his posts.
Eb3 guys and gals ... don't be disheartened .... October bulletin might have some positive news atleast for the 01-02 filers.
I am 03 btw!!!!!
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diptam
08-02 04:00 PM
Whenever i read your Post i feel Good - The Rep that i spoke to USCIS told me that July 2nd filers has minimum wait till Aug 15th :D
By the way there is a Prediction for OCT Bulletin in Market >>
EB3 India retrogressed to MAY 2001 and so on , so forth - Enjoy...
http://www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/Jan%20P...n%208-2-07.pdf
I had an email conversation with my lawyer regarding 180 day portability. She said that the count for 180 days should begin with notice date for safe side.
However the count begins with Receipt Date which is a day or 2 off from the actual application receive date (mail received date).
This is what i got from my lawyer.
By the way there is a Prediction for OCT Bulletin in Market >>
EB3 India retrogressed to MAY 2001 and so on , so forth - Enjoy...
http://www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/Jan%20P...n%208-2-07.pdf
I had an email conversation with my lawyer regarding 180 day portability. She said that the count for 180 days should begin with notice date for safe side.
However the count begins with Receipt Date which is a day or 2 off from the actual application receive date (mail received date).
This is what i got from my lawyer.
redcard
08-12 12:44 PM
I totally agree that is a very unfair measure against the whole H1-B community and all of us here especially for lots of us who come from large Indian technology companies. Having said that, don�t we all agree that the mess we are in including the Green Card retrogression is driven by the fact that this H1-B system was grossly misused by the unscrupulous body shops and consulting companies run primarily by Indians in US. These companies not only reduced the quality of Indian Professionals which was sort after by American Technology companies but also has made the skill set of every Indian professional seeking a job doubtful because of the widespread practice of dressing up the resumes. I am sure this had to happen sooner or later and unfortunately the ethical Indian companies have also got caught in this.
On the other hand I think the good fall out of all this should be that large Indian companies like TCS and Infosys should move from service centric model to a product centric model. I personally think that a product centric company is much higher in value chain compared to a service oriented company. Unfortunately India which has one of the best technological brains cannot boast of single product like Windows or for that matter Peopelsoft, SAP which would not have been possible without the contribution of Indian Technology Professionals but were developed for international companies.
Unfortunately we tend of have the ability of exploiting everything that comes our way like the H1-B Visa system a crackdown of which comes down to effect the people who play by the book. It won�t be long before axe comes down on the EB-1 category of GC the way its being exploited.
On the other hand I think the good fall out of all this should be that large Indian companies like TCS and Infosys should move from service centric model to a product centric model. I personally think that a product centric company is much higher in value chain compared to a service oriented company. Unfortunately India which has one of the best technological brains cannot boast of single product like Windows or for that matter Peopelsoft, SAP which would not have been possible without the contribution of Indian Technology Professionals but were developed for international companies.
Unfortunately we tend of have the ability of exploiting everything that comes our way like the H1-B Visa system a crackdown of which comes down to effect the people who play by the book. It won�t be long before axe comes down on the EB-1 category of GC the way its being exploited.
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forgerator
04-23 10:26 PM
It took 10 days for me . Filed in Feb 2011.
It seems Feb 2011 is a golden era for PERM approvals , almost similar effect of July 2007. I have noticed people who filed in February got their PERM approvals in under 2 weeks.
It seems Feb 2011 is a golden era for PERM approvals , almost similar effect of July 2007. I have noticed people who filed in February got their PERM approvals in under 2 weeks.
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cooldude0807
07-14 02:58 PM
Contributed $25
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ivar
12-11 02:12 PM
There could be lots of folks who missed July 07 fiasco. For the people who were able to file during July 07 that EAD is working as good as green card for now.. wish we could. Here is my case if that makes you feel little better that there are lots of people who missed the boat, I Had approved labor with PD Mar 06 and I-140 and i changed my Job in Mar 07 because of issues with desi company. I never imagined that dates will become current in just three months.. :mad:
Now i am still waiting for my labor.. I recently got three years H1b extension. This extension seems like green card to me :o
I share your pain buddy.I also miss the July 2007 fiasco by 1 month due to my &^@#$% lawyer who took 1 year to apply for labor and kept me in dark .The most painful thing is to see my wife's frustration who inspite of job offers can't join becoz company does not want to sponsor.Just being optimistic is the only hope.
Now i am still waiting for my labor.. I recently got three years H1b extension. This extension seems like green card to me :o
I share your pain buddy.I also miss the July 2007 fiasco by 1 month due to my &^@#$% lawyer who took 1 year to apply for labor and kept me in dark .The most painful thing is to see my wife's frustration who inspite of job offers can't join becoz company does not want to sponsor.Just being optimistic is the only hope.
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vkallank
07-18 10:01 PM
As requested by IV core, from now on my recurring contributions would be $50 ( till date it was $20).
As fellow legal immigrants each of us share a responsibility to ease the process of GC. If each and every member engages in a financial contribution our confidence as a team would grow by leaps and bounds. This i believe would let core team lobby a lot stronger for our causes.
I hope all contributing members would be a motivation for other IV members to contribute.
As fellow legal immigrants each of us share a responsibility to ease the process of GC. If each and every member engages in a financial contribution our confidence as a team would grow by leaps and bounds. This i believe would let core team lobby a lot stronger for our causes.
I hope all contributing members would be a motivation for other IV members to contribute.
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venkata555
09-10 01:49 AM
just donated 100$ thru google checkout . transaction id Google Order #312235194400027
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chanduv23
05-15 07:39 AM
There was a campaign on wrongful denial in AC21 , there was also letter campaign not sure what happened after that ? It was IV action item too... What was the conclusion ? should we all suffer even if it is a training issue, if they act such nice on letters , then why they act as if there is no form and if AC21 is for real aliens from a real alien world.
Bigboy - those were good enough to help us reach Ombudsman's office and the result of those campaigns was that the Ombudsman's office now have a page on their website addressing this issue. Not sure how much it is helping though but as such, if anyone is having case problems, they have to contact the Ombudsman because their office is officially supposed into case problems and am sure - they have their liason at the service centers who may monitor such decisions at an individual case level.
Not quite sure why these things are continuing to happen.
Bigboy - those were good enough to help us reach Ombudsman's office and the result of those campaigns was that the Ombudsman's office now have a page on their website addressing this issue. Not sure how much it is helping though but as such, if anyone is having case problems, they have to contact the Ombudsman because their office is officially supposed into case problems and am sure - they have their liason at the service centers who may monitor such decisions at an individual case level.
Not quite sure why these things are continuing to happen.
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gc28262
03-11 01:49 PM
My application was finally approved yesterday after almost 7 years in queue. Here is the sequence of events right before the approval.
RFE email on 02/13/09
2nd Biometrics Notice received on 02/17/09
Lawyer receives RFE for EVL, EAD cards and Marriage Certificate on 02/24/09
Completed Code 3 Biometrics on 02/26/09
Soft LUD immediately after Biometrics on 02/26/09
USCIS receives RFE reply on 02/27/09, Hard LUD and email on the same day
Another soft LUD on 03/02/09
CPO email on 03/10/09
Welcome email on 03/10/09
My PD has been current for a long time, but my application had not been touched and then suddenly USCIS became a model of efficiency. I am sure they are opening applications and approving or RFE'ing all they can. Hang in there guys.
Congrats !
Happy to see another free bird flying off USCIS cage.
RFE email on 02/13/09
2nd Biometrics Notice received on 02/17/09
Lawyer receives RFE for EVL, EAD cards and Marriage Certificate on 02/24/09
Completed Code 3 Biometrics on 02/26/09
Soft LUD immediately after Biometrics on 02/26/09
USCIS receives RFE reply on 02/27/09, Hard LUD and email on the same day
Another soft LUD on 03/02/09
CPO email on 03/10/09
Welcome email on 03/10/09
My PD has been current for a long time, but my application had not been touched and then suddenly USCIS became a model of efficiency. I am sure they are opening applications and approving or RFE'ing all they can. Hang in there guys.
Congrats !
Happy to see another free bird flying off USCIS cage.
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GCard_Dream
07-06 05:57 PM
You may have to hit refresh in your browser to see it. Give it a try.
I dont see anything about the law suit on OH site.
I dont see anything about the law suit on OH site.
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javadeveloper
07-18 04:25 PM
Hello All,
Some food for thought.
As I understand we (i.e IV) has 21000 members and 14000 active members. If even each active member contrubute $ 20 per month, that would be $ 420,000 per month or about $ 5 Mn per year.
Imagine the miracles that we can do with that kind of fund!! And I am damn sure that we can afford $ 20 per month. Cost of few gallons of gas per month.
Non contributing, active members! Please wake up atleast now and do some soul searching!!!
I do agree , but I do not see any $20 contribution in google checkout or paypal.We have to mail the checks.I guess we can get more contributions if we include $25,$50,$75 contributions in google checkout as well as paypal.Correct me If I am missing some thing.
Some food for thought.
As I understand we (i.e IV) has 21000 members and 14000 active members. If even each active member contrubute $ 20 per month, that would be $ 420,000 per month or about $ 5 Mn per year.
Imagine the miracles that we can do with that kind of fund!! And I am damn sure that we can afford $ 20 per month. Cost of few gallons of gas per month.
Non contributing, active members! Please wake up atleast now and do some soul searching!!!
I do agree , but I do not see any $20 contribution in google checkout or paypal.We have to mail the checks.I guess we can get more contributions if we include $25,$50,$75 contributions in google checkout as well as paypal.Correct me If I am missing some thing.
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Immi_Nightmare
07-06 05:56 PM
aarbi, did you do your medicals, did you loose your work day, did you paid your attorney, did your wife(if any) came back from middle of the vacation, did you had health problem when you done your medicals....did your app got stuck at USCIS for years......
sleepless nights for those people who's answer is YES for most of the above questions
My wife is in the exact sme situation as yours . She to scramble around in India to get her passport re-validated after my H1 extension in the middle of her vacation and board the next flight to US , go through the medical tests only to find out that the dates have been pushed back again.
sleepless nights for those people who's answer is YES for most of the above questions
My wife is in the exact sme situation as yours . She to scramble around in India to get her passport re-validated after my H1 extension in the middle of her vacation and board the next flight to US , go through the medical tests only to find out that the dates have been pushed back again.
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map_boiler
07-06 12:01 AM
duplicate thread...admin please merge this with "News Article Thread -3"
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hebron
10-22 10:00 AM
Hi 9Years and VayuMahesh,
Thanks for the info. This helps people who are planning to port.
1. Did you refile under EB2 with the same employer? If so, would you mind sharing details - job description used for EB3 and EB2? I have an MCA from India with 12+ years of experience. My current employer filed my GC under EB3 (PD 2004), job description used was Software Engineer. I was promoted since then to Principal S/W Engineer and I was hoping I could ask my current employer to refile under EB2. But my attorney says that it is risky since the current job description of Principal Software Engineer has to be different from Software Engineer by atleast 50%.
2. Did you get any RFE during the new PERM or I-140?
It will be of great help if you could advice.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for the info. This helps people who are planning to port.
1. Did you refile under EB2 with the same employer? If so, would you mind sharing details - job description used for EB3 and EB2? I have an MCA from India with 12+ years of experience. My current employer filed my GC under EB3 (PD 2004), job description used was Software Engineer. I was promoted since then to Principal S/W Engineer and I was hoping I could ask my current employer to refile under EB2. But my attorney says that it is risky since the current job description of Principal Software Engineer has to be different from Software Engineer by atleast 50%.
2. Did you get any RFE during the new PERM or I-140?
It will be of great help if you could advice.
Thanks in advance!
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desi3933
09-15 11:46 AM
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once your I-140 is approved, that date is yours.. but for only that preference category
.....
Incorrect.
Please read this pdf document
AFM Update: Chapter 22: Employment-based Petitions (http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/afm_ch22_091206R.pdf)
Please pay attention to section (3) Priority Date Based on Earlier Petition on page 28 -
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If an alien is the beneficiary of two (or more) approved employment-based immigrant visa petitions, the priority of the earlier petition may be applied to all subsequently-filed employment-based petitions.
For example:
Company A files a labor certification request on behalf of an alien ("Joe") as a janitor on January 10, 2003. The DOL issues the certification on March 20, 2003. Company A later files, and USCIS approves, a relating I-140 visa petition under the EB-3 category. On July 15, 2003, Joe files a second I-140 visa petition in his own behalf as a rocket scientist under the EB-1 category, which USCIS approves. Joe is entitled to use the January 10, 2003, priority date to apply for adjustment under either the EB-1 or the EB-3 classification.
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I suggest, you talk to an attorney before using words like illegal. It may be unfair, but still be legal.
_____________________________________
Proud Indian-American and Legal Immigrant
once your I-140 is approved, that date is yours.. but for only that preference category
.....
Incorrect.
Please read this pdf document
AFM Update: Chapter 22: Employment-based Petitions (http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/afm_ch22_091206R.pdf)
Please pay attention to section (3) Priority Date Based on Earlier Petition on page 28 -
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If an alien is the beneficiary of two (or more) approved employment-based immigrant visa petitions, the priority of the earlier petition may be applied to all subsequently-filed employment-based petitions.
For example:
Company A files a labor certification request on behalf of an alien ("Joe") as a janitor on January 10, 2003. The DOL issues the certification on March 20, 2003. Company A later files, and USCIS approves, a relating I-140 visa petition under the EB-3 category. On July 15, 2003, Joe files a second I-140 visa petition in his own behalf as a rocket scientist under the EB-1 category, which USCIS approves. Joe is entitled to use the January 10, 2003, priority date to apply for adjustment under either the EB-1 or the EB-3 classification.
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I suggest, you talk to an attorney before using words like illegal. It may be unfair, but still be legal.
_____________________________________
Proud Indian-American and Legal Immigrant
mrdelhiite
06-25 01:28 PM
IV members have saved you a lot of money on attorney phone calls, getting answers to medical test questions and other general questions. Please contribute to IV so that we can keep this effort going. While everybody is busy collecting documents and paperwork for 485, core IV again is doing there personal paperwork and + lobbying.
Please contribute, especially if you are new and never contributed. Please do not be a freeloader and get your questions answered and run away.
Yes Amit you are 100 % right everyone esp I have to do that too ... i work with Aman in state and i see how much work you guys do.... just excuse me for a day or 2 i just have to get a H4 date and marrige done .. my would be is in India right now
-M
Please contribute, especially if you are new and never contributed. Please do not be a freeloader and get your questions answered and run away.
Yes Amit you are 100 % right everyone esp I have to do that too ... i work with Aman in state and i see how much work you guys do.... just excuse me for a day or 2 i just have to get a H4 date and marrige done .. my would be is in India right now
-M
sugaur
03-06 05:30 PM
Heres the sliver lining of all this immigration mess. Its good for spiritual development. I came here 10 years ago in mid 20s. My understanding of Indian philosophy was rudimentary at best. Now I have found reading and meditating on the meaning of Gita is one of the best ways for me to deal with the GC mess, and life in general. So I wonder if GC had been a smooth process would I have still discovered the beauty of the Gita?
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